NOW AVAILABLE: GolfWRX G/Fore Hats and Holderness & Bourne Polos! Mack Made Custom Blade. Apex Height 112' 11" TaylorMade Stealth+ 8 w/ PX Handcrafted Prototype EvenFlow Black 65 6.5, TaylorMade SIM ROCKET 14.5 w/ PX Handcrafted EvenFlow Black 75 6.5, TaylorMade SIM 18 Tour Issue w/ PX Handcrafted EvenFlow Black 75 6.5, TaylorMade SIM 2 Max Rescue 3-19 w/ PX RDX Smoke 90 6.5, TaylorMade SIM 2 Max Rescue 4-22 w/ PX RDX Smoke 90 6.5, Srixon ZX7 6-AW w/ Nippon Modus Tour125 Stiff People like you that rant about longer amateurs is what makes for good laughs. Dear Claeys, We highly recommend you to visit a TrackMan coach or fitter close to you, as there are many individual aspects to your question. [quote name='baseballfrk8998' timestamp='1364403832' post='6707431'] Trackman is pretty interesting, obviously path and angle of attack change depending on the shot your trying to shape. Its Not About the Equipment. My average driving distance is 240 but IF I can make a shot in the sweet spot (Stars Aligned after a long Prayer) I can go 290 to 300 measured on the golf course. I actually feel I get more out irons than I do the woods. 19* SLDR Resuce // Speeder 9.3s Items sent in without return postage will not be returned. Open navigation menu. [Note If you are interested in what drivers and fairway woods the top 100 PGA Tour players are using check out the in-depth analysis we have done here.]. Take Bubba for example who can increase his AoA to 5-6 and hit balls 350 yards in the air when screwing around on the range however on the course he hardly does that. It's a pretty common way to play the game and it helps the scoring aspect of your game tremendously. Yes, the TrackMan Combine data is extremely valuable for identifying weaknesses that can be improved, but it is just as (arguably more) important for identify strengths that the golfer can play to without having to spend any additional time practicing. The respective games the AMA and professional golfers play today are two entirely separate entities and should be treated as such. It was soft in landing rather than quick and checking. By comparison a 5-wood carries 235 yards and hit a 3 hybrid, which measures from 19 to 21, an average carry distance of 230 yards. And it just isnt true.well at least not on average. In the lower lofted wedges (46-52) at address the club sits squarer, the leading edge looks to be straighter and less rounded at the top of the toe. 3-irons average 217 yds, 4-irons 208 yds, 5-irons 199 yds, 6-irons 188 yds, 7-irons 177 yds, 8-irons 164 yds and 9-irons 153 yds. Their delivery will be erratic and Vokey is a bladed wedge which offers little help in the forgiveness department. [/quote] They must get club speed confused with ball speed, Cough Some people may exaggerate slightly , Hi My ball speed is with driver 195 km/h AND 160 km/h with a 6 iron Schaft = rgular or ???? Trackman is obviously simply a tool for fitting & in no way plays any part on your actual game. I guess if you don't play with guys that are good, it's understandable. 4 -PW: Callaway Apex MB, KBS $ taper 130X, Wedges - Jaws raw 50, 54, 59 KBS $ taper 130x, Putter- Odyssey Vesa 12 center stroke lab shaft. My full swing with a driver was anout ewual to an average guys 9 iron turn. The average USGA handicap for male golfers has been between 14.0 and 15.0 since 2005. One suggestion could be to setup course length based on club speed and optimal driver efficiency. [/quote] Hi Gerry. Launch Angle 11.28 Trackman golf terms: What Trackman results mean Club head speed: Club head speed is the speed that the club head is traveling at when it makes impact with the ball. Nothing feels better than a Vokey, theyre silky smooth and with the right setup just slide under the ball. Trackman stats obviously don't mean that much either. Total Distance Efficiency 2.484. [/quote] Dustin Johnson can hit a putter 400 yards That smash factor surprises me a bit. I also shot 86. This instant gratification can be achieved through the 30-45 minute TrackMan Combine process! I've always gone with clubs based off of feel and ball flight, not what the numbers say. It should make you a little. For example for a 170 yard shot into the green a quick glance at his iron yardages shows he could decide to play either a three-quarter 8-iron or try to hit a 9-iron as far as he can his max distance for that club. Lol, so true.. Stay up to date and receive free notifications of new posts by email. The AMA has an average club speed of 93.4 mph and an average total distance of 214 yards. Titleist 712 CB 4-9, MB PW KBS Tour (HS1X) Brooks Koepka, winner of the US Open 2017 and 2018. Thats 95 extra yards, putting the actual distance of the drive under neutral conditions around 340-345. That's what I think. While the length of the course is an important factor in scoring, more so is the challenging greens and required approach shots. How can that be true. Have a look at his driver and 6 iron numbers below: Driver 6 Thanks this will help my golf game so much now. Your email address will not be published. They think that a drives are always over 320, which they are not not even close. Please include a self-addressed envelope with prepaid postage for return. I was advised to switched to the 8 bounce as my impact is shallower than when I was previously fitted for my SM8s. TrackMan [/quote] [quote name='jeffrey08250' timestamp='1364360280' post='6704435'] http://web.tigerwoods.com/onTour/seasonStatistics. I know I'm not a short hitter & I know there's a ton of bs on this board. The fairways where I play are very firm and I get a fair amount of roll. Most of the guys I play/practice with are +2 to 5 handicaps. The LDA guys can't hang with the short games and are wildly sporadic with their tee shots, hence why they get multiple tries. hard to say for sure who was at fault in the beginning i am 7 handicap play with a friend who is 26-28 i play blue he plays white even when an extra player joins me on the blue he still plays white. [quote name='govols' timestamp='1364353617' post='6703853'] If golfers are to continue playing the same length tees, then optimizing their driver distance is going to be key to enhancing their performance. 2023 Arnold Palmer Invitational - Discussion and Links to Photos, 2023 The Honda Classic - Discussion and Links to photos, 2023 Genesis Invitational - Discussion and Links to photos, 2023 Waste Management Phoenix Open - Discussion and Links to Photos, 2023 AT&T Pebble Beach Pro-Am - Discussion and Links to all photos, 2023 HSBC Women's World Championship (Mar 02 - 05), Byron Morgan best for your balls DH89 & the elusive DBCM 8802, TWO PUTTERS - ONE POST. He has an average attack angle of -1.6 degrees. I have a terrible slice that knocks A LOT of yards off of my drive. How many average golfers drive the ball 250 yards and keep it in the fairway? [quote name='govols' timestamp='1364403614' post='6707409'] My taylermade aero burner average distance is 330 yards on a good day 364 yards. While it would be easy to quietly continue his good deeds, the time is right to establish a foundation that can partner with others to positively impact countless philanthropic organizations and communities, and deliver even more good in the world. Top 100 PGA Tour Player Guide, What Wedges Do the Pros Use? f[yZ3 /=KCYOSg~VN@ ae@.Xq@U$ Q\8H`/ 9Hj: .1xq *Normalized data was used to calculate approach shot distances. I am disabled now and dont play at all but i had a spinal fusion and two rods put in my back when i was a teenager. Commented here a while ago Im actually not sure before I used GPS through my mobile whether I hit it further than I do now. When it comes to talking about distance in golf the easiest and most obvious place to start is of course always with the longest club in the golf bag the driver. I have also never heard a beginner or poorer striker of the golf ball say I need to lower my ball flight which is what these are said to do. Assuming however the pros are hitting standard lofted pitching, gap, sand and lob wedges we found the following stock distances for how far the pros hit them. The challenge is, improving your distance is a slow and arduous process. Spin Rate is on the high side, which also could indicate an off-center strike, and probably a negative attack angle both will shorten your distance. What a great read with invaluable data and information. Notice how few balls landed past the target.. What I find funny is the number of people on here that think it's ridiculous that an amateur golfer claims to have similar numbers to a professional. work on your short game. On average, all of the projected distances were 50-70 yards further without the slice. [color=#333333][size=3][background=rgb(229, 228, 226)]8.5* Driver[/background][/size][/color] For years, Justin has quietly used his fame and financial wherewithal to help many. This put him near the bottom of the pack. 6 Iron Trackman Data - What am I missing? Too delofted? Progressive Centre of Gravity - Maintaining the lower CG in the stronger lofts, while raising CG even further in the more lofted clubs. While these yardages will give you a general guide as to how far pros hit their wedges it is important to remember how particular all the pros are about these clubs especially. The difference in a good amateur player and a touring professional is typically going to be short game, endurance, and that space between the ears. Top 100 Player Analysis. Despite the slight changes SM9 still looks very much like a Vokey should and thats what I like about these heads. A look at Brooks Koepkas yardage book below gives us a great insight into this and highlights how many types of shots pros can play with their irons. I don't measure my driver distance. My 8 iron 190yards 5iron 252 yards Pw is 150yrds And loft 56 at 120yrds Loft 110 yrds How do i control the power to less distance? Carry Distance 302.9 also his AoD on the stinger. I know what you are thinking, there is a lot that goes into making a wedge. Based on the Trackman, the fitter's recommendation was a 910 D3, 7.5 loft, and a Graphite Design Tour AD DI 8X. I cant hide my excitement and love for a Vokey wedge and it doesnt change on these. x]I]618nI9^R? All too many golfers go to the course and hit every shot in the hope its the best shot theyve ever hit. TrackMan Shaft: Graphite Design Tour AD IZ 85 S, Irons: Callaway Apex Forged (2021) (4-PW) You just have to be fit correctly and learn how to deliver the club better to the ball, and i shoot low 70s and i hit the ball 245 yards with ZERO roll in Thailand so it can be done. Or should i take control on the distance i have? Imagine being on the practice ground with Justin Thomas or Nelly Korda week in week out. Id estimate the average tour player will hit their basic solid drive between 295-310 under neutral conditions. Maybe for one swing he got there. Justin Thomas and Excel Sports Management are not responsible for lost, stolen or damaged items. Artisan MT Grind (58) DG S400 [quote name='govols' timestamp='1364416375' post='6708959'] [color=#333333][size=3][background=rgb(229, 228, 226)]Clubhead Speed - 125[/background][/size][/color] I would say probably is bs. Impressive Combine Score by a 12 year old boy, How to maximize player performance with small changes. It is fun and I find that I usually am scoring better than I would say 90% of the guys I play with now, hitting on average longer than 90% and I realize that that is because shooting in the 90s means in golf you are better than most so above average which unless you played since a teenager and have no other life and want to play 4 to 5 days a week or more that is all you can ask for. I shared the dispersion plot with our local club committee who are thinking of installing trackman after redeveloping several holes, and was asked questions along these lines: 1. Because of the trends and correlations found in the TrackMan Combine data, it is possible to calculate the proximity to hole for nearly any handicap or approach distance with high confidence. Because winning money, titles, and shooting low scores doesnt involve all that much power hitting, especially with the irons. I think some of you think too highly of yourselves & don't give tour players enough credit. I'm not going to wear my body down trying to swing that club. Club Head Speed 119.55 Ive played four rounds since reading this, and shot 81, 83, 79, and 78. :-). I'm planning to change my irons this year after a number of years but before heading straight to a club fitter to test out all the latest and greatest models I thought it would be interesting to take What Driver is Most Used On the PGA Tour? This analysis seems to be for elite athletes. There is no age or nationality restriction for the AMA. Can anyone give me any insight of what all these numbers mean? I like to look at his averages on the tour seems to be more realistic data that is actually in play on tour. Ball Speed 176.38 Some of us didn't have the means or access to learn and play a lot of golf when we were Teeball aged. I then picked up the lob wedge, historically as a two wedge player I need high versatility with this club as it is 6 degrees more lofted than my 52. My total yardage for my 7 iron is 190, my ball speed is 119 mph. Justin Thomas is one of the most exciting and popular golfers on the PGA TOUR. I, and many amateur golfers I play with on a regular basis, have the ability to hit the ball a long way. I think you wish you hit it further. Shafts: Nippon N.S. The 58 is versatile in shot options and with the change of grind from D to M I had an increase in performance. [/quote] Launch angle was between 17-22. And when it comes to how far Tiger Woods, arguably the greatest iron player of all time, hits his irons? [quote name='govols' timestamp='1364404259' post='6707501'] He defeated Will Zalatoris in a 3-hole playoff to clinch the title for the second time. Do All Golf Balls Go the Same Distance? And for those golfers looking to make more substantial improvements to their game, the TrackMan Combine provides a roadmap for the improvement journey and accurate, immediate feedback at all checkpoints / stops along the way. Knowing what club to hit based on distance and the safest place to aim based on dispersion tendencies will undoubtedly benefit the golfer. GolfWRX_Spotted posted a topic in Tour and Pre-Release Equipment, Tuesday at 04:47 PM, GolfWRX_Spotted posted a topic in Tour and Pre-Release Equipment, February 20, GolfWRX_Spotted posted a topic in Tour and Pre-Release Equipment, February 13, GolfWRX_Spotted posted a topic in Tour and Pre-Release Equipment, February 6, GolfWRX_Spotted posted a topic in Tour and Pre-Release Equipment, January 31, Please put and questions or comments here, Please put any questions or comments here, Please put any questions of comments here. Although early days yet is there a general reason for the different results in club path. It has to do with my ability. Im wondering if there are outliers here?. I've had the privilege of playing with and watching tour players in person, so I know what they're capable of. (Unimpededof course, because we always were able to play during the week). It's good for some laughs. This course setup for the AMA is assuming a perfectly optimal drive by the golfer so in theory 395 yards would be a maximum length for the AMA based on 50% GIR. [color=#333333][size=3][background=rgb(229, 228, 226)]8.5* Driver[/background][/size][/color] Im sure most of them can squeeze out 10 extra yards on every club on this chart. Mr Vokey has listened and gone on to design a wedge with the feedback of those players in mind. any 7 iron data ? The strike felt tight knit and the spin was better than my SM8 52 degree wedge. Whatever helps you sleep at night my friend. Again, I would certainly encourage you to get fitted for these due to the variations on offer and especially get fitted on grass as a mat does not give any useful feedback on interaction needed for bounce and grind. I think some of you think too highly of yourselves & don't give tour players enough credit. Most of the guys I play/practice with are +2 to 5 handicaps. [color=#333333][size=3][background=rgb(229, 228, 226)]Average Distance - 302 yards[/background][/size][/color] Sorry for the ramble. Trackman is obviously simply a tool for fitting & in no way plays any part on your actual game. I know I'm not a short hitter & I know there's a ton of bs on this board. Driver: Charles Kelley whats in the bag accurate as of the Pebble Beach Pro-Am. Greater distancethe eternal quest for golfers. me too! I suppose you have the biggest and fastest car as well ? Launch Angle 11.28 BALL; Chrome Soft X. That's what I think. I wonder what his user name is on WRX.. But if you take the averages over a season you are going to get more than a good idea of how far the pros are hitting each club. I like to look at his averages on the tour seems to be more realistic data that is actually in play on tour. On top of that it drew me feeling like unless I can hit it 250 every time and at least shoot in the low 90s from the Blue I might as well just give golf up. I can say that Trackman is second to none, and its always my first recommendation to others. Grip: SuperStroke Traxion Flatso 1.0. TrackMan session with Justin Rose and Sean Foley - YouTube 0:00 / 5:10 TrackMan session with Justin Rose and Sean Foley 158,856 views Feb 26, 2013 See how Do you suppose my distance is bs? It is vital for them to know exactly how far they hit their wedges with a variety of different types of shots because feel is so important from those short distances, especially at the top level of the game, where a yard or two can make the difference between winning or losing a tournament. 712u 3 I appreciate that. This demonstrates that without changing technique and only changing strategy, the AMA can improve their performance. I think some of you think too highly of yourselves & don't give tour players enough credit. Very unfortunately most of us are too busy with other things we need to do. Our TrackMan Combine database would contain the answer to those questions, but it would require significant work to pull that information out. For example, I could average over 300 yards per round during the summer with a driver. It's good for some laughs. My average club separation is about 15 yards. The consistency of impact through the sand was staggering, I seemed to take the exact same amount of sand and impact location every time. Their experiences, time away from family, and willingness to sacrifice their lives for our freedom has truly made an impact on Justin. Granted, their handicaps are high, but it gives a lot of support to what Mr. Pelz has been telling us all these years. Taylormade Spider X Chalk SS. This is so I could hit it higher and spin it more, enabling me to access that tough pin position. Copyright 2020 GolfWRX Holdings, LLC. [color=#ff0000]I'd really like to see Tiger's path and face numbers too among others especially seeing how far left he aims at times. [quote]I don't measure my driver distance. I like to look at his averages on the tour seems to be more realistic data that is actually in play on tour. Book a Session for only R500 to get your Swing Analysis. yfvp ~ AnFVS0Y")Mb@3PNm[GVI=! I, and many amateur golfers I play with on a regular basis, have the ability to hit the ball a long way. The AMA has a reported handicap of 14 or 15. we never play for money. For example while one pros gap wedge may be 50 another may choose 53 or even 54 for that same gap wedge club and with such a difference in lofts it becomes very difficult to compare with any meaning how far the pros hit the same-named wedge. Please have a look at the TrackMan locator at this link; https://mytrackman.com/public/locator, Kind regards Niklas Bergdahl Support Manager. Check out the actual averages from the PGA Tour for the entire year: Now this is not to say that a tour player cant ramp it up another gear if they felt like showing off. Add That Little Extra Limited is a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for sites to earn advertising fees (at no cost to you) by linking to Amazon.com. I cant say I noticed the lower ball flight but this is something that Titleist have worked on gradually for the last few generations. And I suppose they hit it relatively far, but nearly the distances that the public thinks. Your ball speed is a little low which could indicate an off-center strike. More photos from the event here. All rights reserved. The TrackMan Combine data collected from over 10,000 golfers of all levels from around the world will be used to analyze his performance in hopes of better understanding where improvement(s) can be made. ?, G#"% y\$)3(Q|1$xNyt7"g \)hEhH-hFtL+x But mostly, when playing for the money, they dont. I often feel articles such as this are skewed. My teachers are always trying to get me to change my swing to generate club head speed, but this consistently leaves me frustrated and physically sore. This way the material is removed from the face and not spread out which means the grooves are sharper and weight isn't dispersed. And a good part of the reason for that is the average golfer often watches with wonder as the best players on the PGA GolfingFocus.com was created simply as a place to allow us to try and find answers to common golfing questions asked, and problems faced, by all standards of golfer.
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